CNN conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg spoke on Wednesday about what he saw as former President Donald Trump’s apparent reluctance after his first presidential debate against Joe Biden.

The presumptive GOP presidential nominee appears to have adopted a “sit back and watch” mentality as calls grow among Democrats for Biden to drop out of the 2024 race after his disastrous performance in the head-to-head matchups, “The Lead” host Jake Tapper noted.

Tapper asked Goldberg if this was the “right move” for Trump.

“I think it scares the living daylights out of a lot of people,” said Goldberg, who resigned from Fox News in 2021 in protest of divisive comments from then-host Tucker Carlson.

Goldberg’s response elicited a laugh from Tapper.

“One of the things we’ve known about Trump for a long time is that he would rather get negative attention than no attention at all,” Goldberg continued. “He prefers positive attention, but if he doesn’t get it, he gets negative attention.”

“And he’s shown remarkable discipline in, again, grading on a curve, in staying out of the way through all of this,” he added. “It suggests that his current political team is probably better than any team he’s had before.”

Tapper suggested that Trump might have “grown or changed.”

“No,” Goldberg replied simply.